It is light and fast. I don’t shoot them as often as I should because I have a 340 savage that is deadly on groundhogs and coyottes. I was gonna say something similar, but you beat me to it. What impressed me first, was the flat trajectory of this riffle using a 80 grain round. My older ADL has a beautiful walnut stock. I don’t plan on shooting competition going through a hundred rounds in a session. My original response was to the validity of your “tool of choice”. I had a Rem 700 ADL .243 in beautiful walnut (not laminate either). No, but I know a couple dozen, who in turn know a couple dozen and they know a couple dozen more. I had a monster 12-gauge for turkey hunting and never thought twice. The rifle is very light and is best suited for shooting in thick areas, and one can also take it while on a long trek on hills. They should not be pretty, they should be rugged!! As I said, you “could” use a 308 at 1000-yards much as you could use a flathead screwdriver as a chisel, can opener, paint/caulk scraper, toothpick, ignition key, etc. It also shoots a bit flatter than ballistics charts indicate. I’ve took rabbits with a slingshot, and a deer (Doe) with a 35lb. The model 770 is known for its cheap build. I bought my 700 ADL in .270 win back in 1972, when I was 12 years old for my first deer hunt. While the SuperCell recoil pad is not actually needed on a 11-pound rifle in .243 Win., it ranks among the best available. After pulling the bolt out and bore-sighting by eye, I found paper and was only a little off. That’s why I choose it for my personal choice. Since I’ll be using this for coyotes and coyote food (i.e. and other cartridges of its caliber more suitable for varmint shooting than ever before. With a length of 2.870 inches, the magazine of the Remington Model 783 will handle cartridge lengths of 2.850 inches. Guess who came out on top? You sound like my daughters boy friend. Can’t beat that with a stick. The affordably priced rifle that was based on the Marlin XL7 design now comes in a range of six calibers — including 7mm and .300 Win Mag – and puts a quality bolt … But I can get the same MOA in a 3 shot group that the heavier much more costly “tactical” monsters can do. and Lock Tite it all and you’ve got one hell of a big game rifle. Yes, you read that correctly – this is a review of the Remington 700 ADL. Most factory barrels in .243 Win. My favorite .243 Win. All Shooting Times subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. The barrel cleaned easily but required some Hoppe’s 9 to get all the copper out. The “experts” said they wouldn’t have one. Tack driver like a custom competition rifle? The scope comes mounted and bore-sighted and from what I can tell, is nothing more than a Tasco World Class 3-9×40 available elsewhere for $50-60 – except that this scope has a Remington “R” on each of the turret caps. Ha Ha Ha. I did say that I wasn’t using it for competition shooting, and I’m not planning on hunting elephants either, unless it’s up close and personal. At 3150 fps a 50 gr vmax with a poly tip will do the job. While they all are too long to be stabilized by the 1:9.125 twist of the Model 783 Varmint, I was impressed by how fast they could be driven from a 26-inch barrel with a SAAMI-length chamber throat. If you get an elk or sheep that requires deboning/quartering, many guys aim to keep their “pack weight” consistent. No one had anything I was looking for on the used rack (or new rack for that matter)… I almost picked up a .22-250 built on a FN action and a custom laminated stock. If its worth $2k! That sounds like a great deal! The experts said the effective range of the M1 to bring down a deer (Statistics) was 150 yds. 4.) You make a good point but perhaps misread what I said. I’ll keep my long range guns light (And this one much cheaper.) If there exists such a rifle as the definitive American .22, the Marlin Model 39 must be it. In 1983 the median household income in the U.S. was $19,000 and a model Seven was 0.023 percent of that. This way the rifle can be stored or hauled unloaded with a full compliment of ammo on board. By that I mean gear AND weapon(s). After a couple of clicks here and there, I was centered and ready to begin testing for real. You simply will not get a better deal moneywise than this buying any other gun in the USA. When exiting the muzzle at 3,900 fps and zeroed 2 inches high at 100 yards, the Ballistic Tip strikes 2.5 inches above point of aim at 200 yards, dead-on at 300 yards, and about 7 inches low at 400 yards. The gun is only as good as the man behind it. Some guys like me who are 66 and a bit old school when it comes to hunting. If I end up running out of ammo then I had a really bad day. Two boxes of factory ammo and 50 handloads that approached maximum loads with no problems to speak of. The ADL stock is no different and it’s on top of my list of things to upgrade. As good as it was, the .244 Remington introduced during the same year was never a threat to the .243’s supremacy among hunters, and eventually changing the name to 6mm Remington did little to help its cause. We hunted all year long. It shot about 2 ft low at 50 yards out of the box so don’t start to far out when sighting in. The .244 Remington was the legitimate version of RCBS’ Fred Huntington’s .243 Rock Chucker wildcat, giving plenty of case capacity for the bore diameter. Even still, my pack on a 3-day camp is around 60-65 lbs (depends on season). @Accur81 – more fun to shoot? I’m looking at buying bulk ammo. The fellow that I took out with it while he was robbing a drugstore would disagree with the experts. Some people will go “trigger happy”, but that is a small percentage. I once took a buck in a full run at over 200 yds with my .30 cal. Been there, done that. The oversize bolt handle knob is easy on the hand during prolonged shooting, and in the event of a pierced primer or blown case, the shape of the bolt shroud should do a good job of protecting the shooter from propellant gas traveling back through the receiver. The 700 SPS has a 26″ Remington Varmint contour barrel. Remington Model 7 Laminate Review I keep eyeballing the same rifle every time I’m in Walmart, might be worth checking out the 30-06 version. To get a comparable AR-based gun, you’d have to go with an AR-10. All but the barrel and dust cover are cloaked in Mossy Oak’s ‘Treestand’ camouflage pattern. But I’m very familiar with the .308 and it’s trajectory capabilities. for $374, and have scoured the net for the cheapest deals on what I’ve added to this package. (I can think of dozens of names to call them right back.) @Skyler – Overall, it was the combination of acceptable weight, size, accuracy, but most importantly it was the price that won me over. there are thousands upon thousands of hunters who successfully stalk game in relatively open country. For coyote hunting I go with a 58 grain Hornady high velocity (3750 fps) round. With the exception of the S&W 629 Mountain Gun that wouldn’t shoot worth a damn, I have had nothing but the best of luck with them and at a significant price savings. Remington Model 700 243 Hunting Rifle Remington 700 .243 all time favorite hunting rifle. Take a kid hunting. Ergonomics * * * Until someone told me that my stock was shitty, I didn’t even notice. I’d rather blast out a 10 shot 2 1/2″ fast group with an AR than slowly eke out a larger than MOA 3 shot group with a bolt gun. My son is 7 and he was able to keep them inside the 10 ring. Its a solid little gun for around 420$. (Love the .270.. a real flat shooter. Any responses would be greatly appreciated! I fondly remember bumping off crows with the .243 Win., and while I no longer have an interest in shooting them, when Remington included that chambering option for the company’s new Model 783 Varmint, I could not resist giving one a try. In 2 decades, I’ve only ever “picked” my shooting location from tree-stands during hunts back east. As hunting season approaches every year, we look toward our gun cabinets and wonder if we're really using the best deer rifle. We wouldn’t want to poke too many holes in your logic. (The stock was junk, so I replaced it with a heavy pillar-bedded John Plaster stock.). I don’t study them, so I can’t argue the points that you’ve made. Weight: Around 8 lbs. Style * * * groups at 100 yds using my favarite hand loads. The things people blithely say without explaining are kind of amazing here. Bought one of these about 16 months ago for my daughter in a Youth and it is still shooting in the red every time! Mine has proven to be extremely accurate, and Joe Grine has seen it shoot sub-1″ groups at 300 yards with handloads. The trigger is probably a lot like yours: a bit heavy but very short and crisp. Another benefit to the long magazine of the Model 783 is it allows chasing the rifling for best accuracy as the chamber throat erodes from many firings. 1 shot and the bird went down. He’s hysterical… thinks a 1911 chambered in.45ACP is an effective 600-yard defensive pistol… Brand: Remington Arms It’s an M700 for $400 and change (the price has gone up just a bit over the last 2 years). You can use Hornady’s website to figure out how to calculate the HITS rating of the 308 Win and then adjust it accordingly for its terminal performance at 1000-yards. I don’t see the big deal with rifle weight when you are out hunting. At my local store, they are available in .223, .243, and 30-06 – three calibers that should cover almost every game animal in North America. One could potentially argue that the AR craze is a little long in the tooth…but I’m not a gun nut, so I wouldn’t know…, “I love me an Arizona “pin stripe” on an XJ/TJ/YJ”. The magazine of one of my target rifles measures 3.125 inches, and its chamber throat exceeds the SAAMI maximum. (I have seen .243 ammo left behind by hunters in hunting camps around the world.). Why say the old walnut ADL’s were bargain benders? Daylight and couple years short (or long I should say) on this post. Barrel lengths were 22 or 24 inches for standard rifles and 18.5 inches for carbines (.243, 7nm-08 and .308 calibers only). But in the end it “ain’t for squirrel hunting”. bullpup with .00 vs. a his .45 auto. Regardless of caliber, a 700 action is just plain hard to beat out of the box and this little gun has proved it. One of my more memorable hunts with it was for chamois and Himalayan tahr in the snowclad Southern Alps of New Zealand. Lets be realistic – you started your initial post with a disclaimer, not me… The barrel has a 1-9.125″ twist rate which should be sufficient enough to send 100 grain projectiles down range sufficiently stabilized. I guess in the end, it’s what a person is comfortable with and/or familiar with that I think is most important. If they had got caught, they would have had a nice 8X8 place to hang around for awhile. It’s got a world-class Kahles 6x scope on it. A great backup or entry-level “starter” gun. Yes I am a vet and was trained on the old M-16. In 2013, Remington introduced the Model 783 bolt-action rifle in the highly competitive budget-rifle market. I also bought a good pair of ear muffs for my son. I don’t tell them when to watch “Honey Boo-Boo”, or how to eat their Tofu so they can keep their traps shut around me when it comes to hunting. Utilizing the factory-installed Picatinny rail to attach an old faithful Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24X scope increased heft to just over 11 pounds. Unfortunately (or fortunately perhaps), it doesn’t necessarily make you correct. With the extremely long Hornady 103-grain ELD-X seated to an overall length of 2.824 inches in the .243 case, the bullet free-travels 0.020 inch prior to engaging the rifling in that rifle. I love my Remington 788 in .243. 3.) in the hunting fields. Obviously ballistics, down-range effectiveness, logic, and ethics aren’t as black-and-white as simple arithmetic, but there is a certain level of “correctness”. Thats an every-man’s gun in every sense of the word, and it will take deer out to 300+ yards with the best of them. That allows the use of heavier powder charges, but keep in mind that shooters who exceed pressure-tested maximum charge weights published by various reliable sources are on their own. One of those, “East is East, West is West….” kinda things. I said I can’t get my head around using a 308 for hunting at the yardages that you are intending to hunt. Shot deer mostly and a few coyotes with it over the years. How “big” of game are you talking here? For a slight premium, the rifle can also be ordered with a left handed action. As for Remington: They’re the Walmart of guns. Remington Model 770 Build. After all, Winchester engineers described it as the ideal deer cartridge that also hit harder and bucked wind better than smaller calibers on varmints, and who were we to question their wisdom? Since I am no ballistic/wound expert, nor have I ever played one on TV, I have to also refer to credible sources. I picked up a .222 Rem savage 860E for 200 dollars used that will lay a coyote right out. There are four models in the 783 range — the standard tested here, a compact, a camo (all with a synthetic stock) and a walnut-stocked version. Now, I normally could care less what the “public” has to say, but I wouldn’t want to “turn off” a potential hunter from trying out the sport due to another hunters obvious ill-fated decision making skills. For those of you who live in whitetail country, the .243 with 100-grain Core-Lokt rounds have proven to be quite effective for many hunters. Reliability * * * * Overall, the ADL handles just like any SPS so use that as a reference. Ummm, I did mention that this was going to be used for hunting right? “Impossible” I’ve been told. Not bad for a “cannon”, eh? I have spent all day in the woods without getting fatigued. I configured this and set guidelines to go by for this. Sometimes less can definitely amount to so much more….. I don’t have a clue who Karl Lippard is/was. 1 Remington 700 CDL in .243 Winchester. There's a lot of debate as to what the best deer rifle is, but the.243 definitely has it going on. I can assume that throughout the past few years/decades/centuries, that thousands upon thousands of hunters have stalked prey. The 58gr. The wide, flat-bottom fore-end of the brown laminate stock is nicely shaped for shooting over a sandbag, but since many of the rifles I have used to drop varmints through the decades have worn a Harris folding bipod, I used one of them when punching five-shot groups in paper targets from a concrete bench. I shot it at a distance of 5 ft. with a starting pistol. In North America (assuming), it means thin-skinned, hoofed game averaging under about 350 pounds in live weight (deer, pronghorn, sheep, goats, black bear and most feral hogs). ( I paid $120 for my scope-less gun back in 1972). I already have the harmonics under control to the point that the vibration “dead zone” is located at the muzzle. A distinct design departure from the beloved Model 700, the Model 783 provides performance-­oriented features designed to optimize a rifle’s accuracy. My point was that the gun is light and effective in its caliber. 6.) The old 1970s, 1980’s ADLs were/are fantastic rifles: Just bought a NIB Remington 700 short action in .243 { 22″ barrel } from an old friend who bought it new at Wally-World years ago, and NEVER shot it, for $375. Made by combining a steel body with a synthetic floorplate, the detachable magazine holds four .243 Win. Not great, but good enough for <300 shooting on deer size targets. Soon after marriage, I bought my wife, Phyllis, a Model 70 Featherweight chambered for .243, and shortly thereafter she took a Wyoming pronghorn so good I figured I would be a long time catching up. Most of my hunting shots have been standing offhand. A Model 700 so cheap that Remington barely acknowledges its existence. My bolt guns are all MOA or better, which makes them more fun to shoot than less accurate bolt guns. light, reflex, can, or similar) or it should be a purpise built D.M. Hooah! Perhaps you’ve been listening to Karl Lippard for too long. I have a heavy barrel SPS V in .308. with a Choate “ultimate sniper” stock and a Leopold. Nothing fancy, but great for getting rid of pests. Well You know what they say about opinions and what they are like. This is still a SOMEWHAT free country, and I’m not wearing pretty pink panties because some wimpy coward says it’s politically correct. You can’t find these ADL’s in any Remington catalogue or website listing. I recently started out on a project to make an acceptably rugged, that will hold zero and produce sub MOA rifle that gives me 1000 yards of take down power, but with the self imposed stipulation that I keep the whole top to bottom creation under $1,000 dollars. Since I don’t “live off the land”, I see no reason – nor could I imagine one, as to why you would need to build a 308 to “hunt” (injure being the statistical probability) “bigger game” at those distances. Finding new ways to make guns cheaper every year since the early 60’s. I’m not one to argue with statistics, but I know what I’ve done and seen others do. In stalk-type hunts, I could count the number of times I was able to lay prone and clear brush with a 9″ bipod. Where in my response did I imply a “howitzer” was required? The AR-15 is also way more fun to shoot than a bolt with less than match – grade accuracy. Barrett!” Me: “Really? I bought the scoped youth Walmart version. Ive built and tinkered with many a gun in my day, but this one definitely is the most special cause it lets me still hunt at all ranges with my spinal injury. You carry your mini-cannon (Or roll it if you must.) FWIW, I use a cheapo Berkley fish scale (Got it from Cabela’s for $15). 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